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Dee Karl
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 06.20.2009

Sep 3 @ 3:33 PM ET
Dee Karl: Together, Can We? Great presentation, but I'm not sure how much it will do.
Railbait
New York Islanders
Location: Captain Tavares, NY
Joined: 10.10.2011

Sep 3 @ 5:47 PM ET
Good to hear about Romano. I guess he wasn't wanted in Bridgeport anymore.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 3 @ 6:19 PM ET
Good to hear about Romano. I guess he wasn't wanted in Bridgeport anymore.
- Railbait



He along with rhakshanni, dibenidetto, and a few others had no place on the isles and they knew it. They were used as filler in bport until the isles "real prospects" were ready to step in. It's starting now.....bport will be better each year and hopefully the isles follow suit
dawgzhouse
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 3 @ 7:02 PM ET
How close do you think Kabanov is to cracking the roster?
dawgzhouse
Location: Ottawa
Joined: 06.30.2006

Sep 3 @ 7:03 PM ET
And DeHaan?
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 3 @ 7:09 PM ET
How close do you think Kabanov is to cracking the roster?
- dawgzhouse



Kabanov next year
DeHaan makes the team this year.
psycomkl
New York Islanders
Location: Buffalo, NY
Joined: 08.12.2006

Sep 3 @ 8:37 PM ET
Isles after November (lately) is a good thing, but I would rather, as a fan outside the normal viewing area, like to see JT and the others develop. I think a lockout, no matter the length, would hinder what we have already built upon.
NYIDRIVE4FIVE
New York Islanders
Location: Lou York, NY
Joined: 12.17.2009

Sep 3 @ 10:22 PM ET
Isles after November (lately) is a good thing, but I would rather, as a fan outside the normal viewing area, like to see JT and the others develop. I think a lockout, no matter the length, would hinder what we have already built upon.
- psycomkl

Strome tearing up the OHL and Nino tearing up whatever European league he plays in during the lockout will only help them.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Sep 4 @ 2:11 AM ET
Strome tearing up the OHL and Nino tearing up whatever European league he plays in during the lockout will only help them.
- NYIDRIVE4FIVE



A lock out of any length helps no one.

XxNYIxX
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Sep 4 @ 4:30 AM ET
Strome tearing up the OHL and Nino tearing up whatever European league he plays in during the lockout will only help them.
- NYIDRIVE4FIVE



i would expect Nino to play in bport..lockout or not
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

Sep 4 @ 7:57 AM ET
If the Town of Hempstead and Nassau County were that concerned about the revenue lost from no hockey games being played at the coliseum there would already be a coliseum plan in place. Or they'd already be in a new building for that matter.
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Sep 4 @ 8:15 AM ET
Sorry to say, but if I thought a lockout would f**k (especially) Hempstead over, I'd almost be looking forward to it. Unfortunately, that isn't the case...
dcb1
New York Islanders
Location: Oak Ridge, NJ
Joined: 07.08.2006

Sep 4 @ 8:16 AM ET
i would expect Nino to play in bport..lockout or not
- NYI78


He SHOULD HAVE been there last year....but thanks to the antiquated NHL rules....
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Sep 4 @ 8:45 AM ET
He SHOULD HAVE been there last year....but thanks to the antiquated NHL rules....

- dcb1



yup i know
Jethro09
New York Islanders
Location: NJ
Joined: 08.16.2007

Sep 4 @ 10:38 AM ET
You can't have legislation enacted to prevent free workers in the entertainment industry from collectively bargaining their compensation. That's unconstitutional. And this lockout is between more than employers and employees. Its also between wealthy, large-market employers and poorer, small market employers. That's a dynamic that was not present at the last lockout.

Everyone should already be able to recognize what's going to happen: Don Fehr is never going to reach an agreement with the owners without allowing a lockout to be imposed for at least a little while. Its not his style. Fehr isn't going to come in here with his reputation and simply roll over and give the owners everything they want without a fight.

There will be a lockout. It won't wipe out the season, both sides know that would be near-fatal to the game in the US. Expect a lockout of about 1-2 months, with games being played by December, the latest, The Winter Classic will go off without a hitch, there will be a condensed schedule, similar to what the NBA had this past season.

The important thing is that whatever agreement is reached, its longer than 4 years so we don't have to go through this crap again so soon. It is also important that this deal level the playing field between small and large market teams somewhat, by eliminating the front-loading option and signing bonus options on contracts. If it takes a couple of months of a lockout to remedy that problem, I'm okay with that.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 4 @ 11:16 AM ET
You can't have legislation enacted to prevent free workers in the entertainment industry from collectively bargaining their compensation. That's unconstitutional. And this lockout is between more than employers and employees. Its also between wealthy, large-market employers and poorer, small market employers. That's a dynamic that was not present at the last lockout.

Everyone should already be able to recognize what's going to happen: Don Fehr is never going to reach an agreement with the owners without allowing a lockout to be imposed for at least a little while. Its not his style. Fehr isn't going to come in here with his reputation and simply roll over and give the owners everything they want without a fight.

There will be a lockout. It won't wipe out the season, both sides know that would be near-fatal to the game in the US. Expect a lockout of about 1-2 months, with games being played by December, the latest, The Winter Classic will go off without a hitch, there will be a condensed schedule, similar to what the NBA had this past season.

The important thing is that whatever agreement is reached, its longer than 4 years so we don't have to go through this crap again so soon. It is also important that this deal level the playing field between small and large market teams somewhat, by eliminating the front-loading option and signing bonus options on contracts. If it takes a couple of months of a lockout to remedy that problem, I'm okay with that.

- Jethro09



Your OK with it, im OK with it, but its certainly going to alienate the on the fence fans. The best thing this league has done was that 24/7 show which in my experience has gotten viewership from non fans. Many people i know who dont follow hockey comment to me on the show. Its great for the game......having a delayed season can only hurt. Its unreal that in 10 years they could not come up with a better solution.
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Sep 4 @ 12:32 PM ET
Wow no fighting today you can tell when the kids go back to school. I was thinking this since the Islanders usually start going backwards in November December this migh tbe a good thing for them. We usually start off decently we might jsut be able to sneak in the playoffs.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Sep 4 @ 1:47 PM ET
Wow no fighting today you can tell when the kids go back to school. I was thinking this since the Islanders usually start going backwards in November December this migh tbe a good thing for them. We usually start off decently we might jsut be able to sneak in the playoffs.
- kasperrko


So, the way to make sure the Islanders aren't out of it by November is just a matter of starting the season in December!

Any word on Visnovsky? Hearing is today, right? The ruling probably won't be out until 2016 the way this thing's been handled.

Edit -- Also Kasper, just to blow the theory out of the water, the Isles' record in October the last three seasons has been 3-6, 4-7, and 4-9. Wouldn't call that starting off decently! I didn't account for OT losses, so adding in the loser points might make it look a bit better, but it hasn't been that the team only plays bad in Nov. and Dec., it's been that the team was essentially out of playoff contention by then for the last several years.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 4 @ 3:08 PM ET
I'm so beaten down by this pathetic franchise that I don't even care if they play this year and this is coming from a die hard for 25 years
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Sep 4 @ 3:18 PM ET
So, the way to make sure the Islanders aren't out of it by November is just a matter of starting the season in December!

Any word on Visnovsky? Hearing is today, right? The ruling probably won't be out until 2016 the way this thing's been handled.

Edit -- Also Kasper, just to blow the theory out of the water, the Isles' record in October the last three seasons has been 3-6, 4-7, and 4-9. Wouldn't call that starting off decently! I didn't account for OT losses, so adding in the loser points might make it look a bit better, but it hasn't been that the team only plays bad in Nov. and Dec., it's been that the team was essentially out of playoff contention by then for the last several years.

- UIF


Well I am thinking they will get off to a hot start and then tumble but we should be ok to sneak in there. Imagine we win the Cup cause the Islanders timing and dates are out of whack?!!
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 4 @ 3:26 PM ET
Well I am thinking they will get off to a hot start and then tumble but we should be ok to sneak in there. Imagine we win the Cup cause the Islanders timing and dates are out of whack?!!
- kasperrko




The reality is, when you look at the teams in the same division as the isles, you cannot, with a straight face, say that the isles measure up. Each and every team in the division is a playoff team. Year after year, these teams add to their respective rosters, and try to add pieces they feel will better the team to compete with the other 29 teams. The isles on the other hand add excuse after excuse......
kasperrko
New York Islanders
Location: Spring Hill, FL
Joined: 03.09.2007

Sep 4 @ 3:46 PM ET
The reality is, when you look at the teams in the same division as the isles, you cannot, with a straight face, say that the isles measure up. Each and every team in the division is a playoff team. Year after year, these teams add to their respective rosters, and try to add pieces they feel will better the team to compete with the other 29 teams. The isles on the other hand add excuse after excuse......
- kindlyrick


You are right my friend but I dont know why I am feeling like this lately I am getting good vibes from this team. If we all play up to our potential this team can beat the best of them. I mean this team never has a problem against Detroit? I think with the veteran goaltender a little tougher and bigger defense we should be ok. There is still Time for Snow to screw up more with veterans who need a team but if he stays away from the Rolstons of the world we might be ok. If not oh well Ia m used to losing so no big deal. That is what the Giants are for
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Sep 4 @ 4:15 PM ET
You are right my friend but I dont know why I am feeling like this lately I am getting good vibes from this team. If we all play up to our potential this team can beat the best of them. I mean this team never has a problem against Detroit? I think with the veteran goaltender a little tougher and bigger defense we should be ok. There is still Time for Snow to screw up more with veterans who need a team but if he stays away from the Rolstons of the world we might be ok. If not oh well Ia m used to losing so no big deal. That is what the Giants are for
- kasperrko

Lets go!!! Tomorrow night can't come soon enough
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

Sep 4 @ 4:48 PM ET
You are right my friend but I dont know why I am feeling like this lately I am getting good vibes from this team. If we all play up to our potential this team can beat the best of them. I mean this team never has a problem against Detroit? I think with the veteran goaltender a little tougher and bigger defense we should be ok. There is still Time for Snow to screw up more with veterans who need a team but if he stays away from the Rolstons of the world we might be ok. If not oh well Ia m used to losing so no big deal. That is what the Giants are for
- kasperrko




I hear what you're saying but the 5th year of a rebuild should not be the same as year 1. If the isles do not make the playoffs this year, while they are better off in terms of prospects, the on ice product (which sells tickets) will be a failure, which in turn will make the management a failure. I've seen this team do well, and be bottom of the barrell.........but i've never felt the way i do now. Like anything else in life, you get what you put in..........unfortunately the isles ownership will not/cannot put into this team. I have a very hard time believing the results will be any different.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

Sep 4 @ 5:07 PM ET
He along with rhakshanni, dibenidetto, and a few others had no place on the isles and they knew it. They were used as filler in bport until the isles "real prospects" were ready to step in. It's starting now.....bport will be better each year and hopefully the isles follow suit
- kindlyrick



Yes, but at some point, all of these prospects had some value. When former draft picks walk away from the organization, all the money & time spent training & developing them just evaporates. This will be Garth's next excuse...."Era, so many prawspects have bolted the awganization, we NOW, don't have the assets to make trades to make aw team betta."

Garth defenders.....your rebuttal.....

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